kennedy/johnson falls into that pattern. johnson/nixon, much less, and carter/reagan. >> the democratic to republican exacerbated the changeover as well. it was at ken's funeral they got back together. they rode in the same car, had a drink before. and i think they got along marv obviously with each other, from everything i understand, and i guess it's not talking out of school -- maybe it is talking out of school -- but they both thought that president kennedy's funeral was overdone, that it was too grand, and i think eisenhower and truman said that. so when eisenhower was buried, this was a very simple funeral. it was -- eisenhower was buried in the g.i. spot. $98. there was no big parade, no mourning. the body lay in state in the capitol and then placed on the train and went back to abilene. i'm sure you were there. >> one more thing about eisenhower and truman. and that is i don't think any two presidents had more in common with each other than those two. they were different personalities but one can easily imagine harry